HOLY COW!!!! HOW FREAKY!!!! I'M A BELIEVER!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE PHOTO!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
Lady Liberty
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Mr. Flippers Son & Girlfriend Have Bigfoot Experience on Weekend Trip
by flipper ingranted i expect a couple of you out there are doubting this and have expressed this, i certainly respect your right to do so.
that being said there are some of you who have dealt with this bigfoot experience in a very real way.
so here it goes, i had mentioned my son and his girlfriend last weekend were going back to the place my son had his may bigfoot sighting experience.
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How many of you have food stored in case of an emergency??
by Lady Liberty ingood evening everyone,.
another topic here made me think of the mormons who are counseled to have a years worth of food on hand in the event of an emergency.
food, water, money and gas are all things suggested to save.
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Lady Liberty
Good evening everyone,
Another topic here made me think of the Mormons who are counseled to have a years worth of food on hand in the event of an emergency. Food, water, money and gas are all things suggested to save. So my question is that with the uncertainty and volotivity of the Market, who here is planning ahead for their families in case of a financial collapse of our market?
I know Fema suggests keeping certain things on hand in case of an emergency. Here is the food storage plan for Mormans I found on the Internet. http://www.theideadoor.com/FoodStorage.html Thought it was a pretty good plan. Just rotate the new food in with the food you have on hand to avoid spoilage. Even if you don't have a years supply on hand which is obviously a huge amount of food, some sort of foresite seems like a good idea to me. What about you guys?
Are any of you planning ahead just in case??
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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Lady Liberty
Dear Nariko,
WELCOME to the forum!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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I think this is progress
by crazy inbefore i go any further i would like to thank all the people who responded to my two previous posts to offer support, advice and guidance.
my ex-jw ex is now back in my life.
i really was prepared to move on, but somehow he is back.
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Lady Liberty
Dear Crazy,
That is wonderful! Welcome to the forum!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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So how did the folks in YOUR congregation react to this week's KM?
by Dead Man Joaquin inyou know, the one where independent bible research is forbidden, er, discouraged.. .
did anybody actually have the balls to say, "the society does not say such activities are forbidden or discouraged, just not endorsed?
" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
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Lady Liberty
Dear Electric Jello, Homebound, & Dead man Joaquin,
We welcome you all to the forum! Thank you for your posts, we are glad you have found your way here! You are among many friends who have discovered the same things as you no doubt have.
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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Lady Liberty
Dear Justitia,
Thank you for posting that for us. Makes me SICK! When I read this it was like sitting back at the hall before we made our exit. I would get so angry at the BS that was being taught from the platform..and it just gets sucked right up. No questions... just suck up answers from the paragraph, each person trying to out do the last with their comments. Hopefully there will be many that will wake up because of this KM. It will be interesting to see.
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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THOSE WHO ARENT JEHOVAH WITNESSES
by the333 inthose who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you.
all of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion.
i feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.
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Lady Liberty
Dear 333,
Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately for you, you are not the judge. Fortunately for us, Jesus and Jehovah are! There are many things that you obviously know nothing about. For me, it is my love for my Creator and his Son that I no longer associate myself with Jehovahs Witnesses. Out of good conscious the facts I have learned will not allow me to teach a lie.
Here are a few things we discovered when we bagan our journey out of the organization. There are too many more to mention but I challenge you to prove to us that these things are not true!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
My Findings With The Organization
- 586/587 is the destruction of Jerusalem, not 607. There is not proof outside the Societies literature to support that date. It is not in harmony with the scriptures.
- There was no governing body until 1975. And in 1975 before the big change, Fred Franz, one of the Watchtower Presidents were totally against the change to a governing body. He is taped in a public Missionary talk going into great detail as to how unscriptural it was and not in accord with the early Christians, stating there clearly was no governing body in Bible times.
- 1914 was based by Charles Russell by the measurements of the Pyramid of Gehza. He taught that this Pyramid was God’s Stone Witness, and literally measured passages in the tunnel corelating them with Prophecy.
- The New World Translation has replaced God’s name in the Hebrew language. However, they have inserted Jehovahs name throughout the Greek Scriptures, and the Greek scriptures never originally had Jehovahs name in them. By inserting Jehovahs name every place where the original manuscripts read "Lord", it many times is inserted where clearly Jesus name should go when reading the context.
- Over and over the Society misquotes from secular authorities. This is clearly done to decieve the reader into believing that the secular authority agrees with the thought trying to be conveyed. Such quotes are used to give weight to the material being discussed.
- Earthquakes are one of the signs that we are living in the last days according to the Watchtower. The facts clearly show, when examined, that the rictor scale is a fairly recent machine. There has been no way to determine the magnitude and frequency of earthquakes until this machine. Clearly not being very honest with the readers of the Watchtower, because their statements are not based on facts.
- Mexico/Malawi incident. During the same time that our brothers in Malawi were being persecuted, raped, tourchered and murdered for not having a "party card", our brothers in Mexico at the same time were bribing the officials for military cards, and that was ok with the Society. Interesting that the "party cards" were much like our social security cards here in the U.S. There was only one party in Malawi, so by having this card, they were not taking "sides". But still the Society demanded complete obedience to their policy. Yet far away in Mexico, every Mexican citizen was required at a certain age do become a Mexican militant, and to serve in the military for a length of time. Rather than doing the time, the Witnesses were bribing the officials to give them a card. Thus becoming a Mexican militant. This was ok with the Society, as was being a militant. The Mexican brothers felt very guilty that they were given the "green light " by the organization, yet their brothers in Malawi at the same time were not and they were dying for their stand for Watchtower policy.
- The "good news" that the early Christians preached about, as well as Jesus preached of was the "good news" about Jesus. What his life meant and the salvation to all who would just have faith. Today the emphasis is on the Kingdom and the Paradise. If we were to tell ones in the congregation we were speaking of the good news of Jesus, they would think we belonged to the Mormons or another faith. Why had the message changed. Why did the Master Christ Jesus put in place a simple message of salvation for the slave to change that message. What message could ever be greater, than the one he gave his followers?
- During the 2 nd World War, the Society behaved in a very disturbing way. They were clearly anti sematic, anti British, and anti American. When you read the literature published at that time regarding what the Nazis were doing it is shocking. For it clearly shows the Society not taking a firm stand, but rather compromising trying to gain ther Nazis favor.
- The Society points the finger at other religons who have prophecied and yet the prophecys have failed to come true. Yet they claim that they are Gods prophet and not one prophecy of theirs has ever come true. Be sure not to confuse the prophecy of the Bible that did come true, with prophecy of the Watchtower that has never come true. By their own definition, they are also a false prophet.
- If in fact in 1919 the faithful slave was chosen as God’s channel on earth, and Christ Jesus, the Master approved of them, why is it that we do not still teach the things taught back then? Why are they considered, "old light"? Yet it was considered truth for that time. Truth does not revert back to falsehood if it was indeed truth to begin with. Why has the slave rejected what the master had approved of?
- In 1925 Bethsarim was built in San Diego for the "princes" that would be resurected and brought back to life on earth. Abraham, Issiac, Jacob etc… Interestingly enough though, this mansion was occupied until their grand return by Rutherford. But their prophecied grand return never came.
- Blood doctorine- As long as I can remember the command was to abstain from blood. Now, fractions are ok. Who changed that command? What of all those who have died because they were faithful to that policy? What of all those who needed blood and took blood? Were they invited back into the congregations because now the fractions they possibly took which got them disfellowshipped from the congregation in the first place is now ok?
- The light gets brighter excuse for change. When something gets brighter, the light does not get dimmer in the process. Light is added to more light. So something that was wrong, will always be wrong, but there may be continued light as to why it was wrong. But never would light be bright, then get dark, as old ight, being discarded and replaced with something new. Many times the light reverts back and forth back and forth. Clearly these are but mens teachings and not that of Jehovah.
- Child Molestation- The Watchtowers policy of two or more Witnesses applies to child molestation. Yet what molester would ever commit such a crime with two or more witnesses? The offender is not turned over to the authorities if there are not witnesses, and the molester is still able to have access to other children in the congregation to repeat, and victimize other children. Unfortunately other parents have no idea abuse or alegged abuse has taken place. There is no way for them to protect their own children.The congregation is a "safe haven" for molesters that should be turned over to the authorities. They are trained in such areas whereas the elders are not. Most of the time the parents of the abused children are told not to go to the authorities as it would bring reproach of Jehovahs name. They are told to keep silent.
- Christ’s reign was supposed to have began in 1799, 1873, 1874, 1878, 1914.
- Organ transplants were once considered cannibalism. Now they are a conscience matter. What about all those that took a heart transplant etc. against organizational policy. Now that it is a conscience matter, are those who were disfellowshipped for taking a transplant, are they reinstated into the congregation? Or are the still banished from family and friends?
- U.N. involvement. The Society has for years called the U.N. the Wild Beast. And no Christian was to have any participation in it whatsoever. Yet, for 10 years the Society secretly was a NGO member. Their claim was that this was done in order to recieve a library pass to the U.N. library. However, they did not need to join as a NGO member but rather only needed to fill out a application and a letter of recommendation in support of the research. The application is approved and sent to U.N. Security. The U.N checks the application and if approval is granted, instructs the Pass office to issue a library pass for the applicant. The issuance of a library pass is independent of NGO status or any other status. The Society only disassociated themselves after they were exposed. Then made the claim that they had to register as a NGO to have a Library card. Yet how many did they disfellowship for interfaith such as joining the local YMCA? For voting etc…
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Interesting-Account Servant uses his own $ to pay bills
by Younglove1999 inabout a month ago we were invited to an old friend from our old congregation to attend a bonfire.
this was before we finally started telling people were weren't going to meetings.
at any rate, my husband was talking to the guy who took over the accounts when my husband left and he was saying that donations have dwindled significantly.
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Lady Liberty
Dear Younglove,
How sad! This reminds me of my brother in laws parents. He is the PO, and he and his wife make things to sell to make the halls bills. His wife makes flower arrangement, and crafts, as a way to raise money to make the monthly bills. It is like they have taken the responsiblity on themselves to meet this debt. Until recently they lived in a travel trailer for a number of years while doing this. The PO had some sort of injury and cannot work, my brother in law gets furious when he talks about the pressure his parents are under. It is absolutely ridiculous!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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New RBC arrangements/directives
by bud2114 ini joined awhile back and haven't posted much - just lurking like many others.
for the past year or so i have been trying my best to fade away sooner rather than later, but the wife and most of our family have decades of involvement in this mess and well, it's difficult.
little by little i have been sowing seeds of doubt and it does seem to be working somewhat.
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Lady Liberty
Dear Bud2114,
Welcome to the forum, and thank you so much for such a informative post! It is all disgusting that is for sure!! We look forward to hearing more from you, and good luck on your family!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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Some Thoughts... I'm new, this is THERAPUTIC for me... read if you'd like
by bbdodger inin a cult, the society of the cult tries everything in their power to keep one in that society, as well as keeping one ignorant of any information that would sever the guise of legitimacy.
given a version of the bible, not being able to read any other version of the bible is just one example of this kind of inflicted ignorance.
in a cult, it's impossible to get out without a fight.
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Lady Liberty
Dear bbdodger,
Sad that the Borg still has your mother captive of a concept. If you get a chance, have her read that book...."Captive of a Concept" by Don Cameron. It may help her break the ties that bind her. Again, we are happy to have you here!!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty